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FOAC's Weekly Message For Sunday May 23rd 2021 :: 05/23/2021

On May 25 (next week) at 10 AM (rm 140 of the capital building) the Pennsylvania House Judiciary Committee will meet to consider two incredibly important 2Apieces of legislation that we have been working on for years, HB 659 (constitutional carry) and HB 979 (strengthening preemption). We are going to go over each bill below but now is the time that we need your help to reach out and contact members of the house Judiciary committee and your own state legislator to ask them to support both bills.

Contact information for the Pennsylvania house Judiciary can be found at this link: https://foac-pac.org/PA-House-Committees and then click on the tab for Judiciary committee.

Constitutional Carry (HB 659): Sponsor-Rep. Aaron Bernstine

Click here for FOAC Constitutional Carry Fact Sheet: Here

Constitutional Carry is by definition the ability of law-abiding citizens to carry a firearm without a restriction (licenses/permits) in place by the Government. In Constitutional Carry States, there are no licensing or training requirements to legally carry a firearm.

It may seem somewhat odd that there is no government required training to carry a weapon, and I can understand why some could consider this as dangerous. However, in the States that have adopted Constitutional carry (20 thus far), there hasn’t been any increase in violence or firearms accidents. Vermont is one of the safest states in the Union.

On the subject of the sky is falling arguments from anti-gun groups, one of their claims is that, once again, we’re going to see “blood in the streets”! There have been a number of studies done, over the last three decades, on concealed carry and whether or not it has any impact on crime rates, especially murder. The majority of those studies have shown that there is generally a decrease in numerous types of violent crime from rape to homicide. Now there is new research through the academic study available at this link: Prof. Moody, https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3850436

There are many aspects to the importance of removing government impediments from the lawful carrying of firearms that rarely if ever get factored into the discussions on important public policy and this is where we come in because we can engage with our local legislators to bridge the gap and knowledge and understanding.

Below are links to Dr. Lott’s testimony to other states legislatures on Constitutional Carry:

Kentucky – 2019 (signed into law)

Tennessee - 2021 (signed into law)

Texas – 2021 – Senate / House Conference Committee

Louisiana – 2021 – Legislature

To be clear, concealed carry laws have never stopped a criminal from carrying without a license. All they do is prevent law abiding citizens from carrying a firearm. Concealed carry licensing systems can easily prevent people from carrying a firearm to protect themselves as we have seen in many states, especially Pennsylvania, over the last year and ½ due to COVID 19. They also leave people vulnerable during the often-long and unpredictable PICs process applying and being approved.

Another often ignored aspect of the licensing process is that for some lower-income individuals and families, it can be nearly impossible to miss two days of work to apply and pick up ones license along with the costs associated with parking in an urban area. When you take into account that lower income families are more likely to be the victims of a violent crime this is even more insane.

Another important component of HB 659 is that it will fix the horrible transportation of firearms laws that we maintain now and that have led to so many unintentionally violating and being prosecuted for transporting firearms who did not have a license to carry concealed firearms. Section 6106 of title 18 is horribly punitive and restrictive and this legislation would fix that and protect gun owners from unintentionally violating the law.

So, constitutional carry is just what its name implies: the full guarantee to carry a firearm within the exact wording of the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. 

As we have seen, confusion and manufactured controversy surround this guarantee throughout the nation, with ideological and passionate opinions for and against constitutional carry causing ongoing division. Even with the stark differences in opinion, constitutional carry is guaranteed by the Constitution and, even more so, if we believe in a safer society then the records show that of the top 10 safest states in the nation, 6 are Constitutional Carry states with 4 of the top 5 being Constitutional Carry.

Strengthening PA Firearm Preemption Law - HB 979 - Sponsor Rep. Matt Dowling

Click here for FOAC Preemption Fact Sheet: Here

As I’m sure you, Pennsylvania has a firearms preemption law (title 18, section 6120) that makes it a crime to pass a local gun law. FOAC continues to be in court defending that law when the district attorneys of the Commonwealth won’t. Neither Harrisburg nor the city of Pittsburgh nor the city of Philadelphia have faced any kinds of criminal sanctions for nakedly violating this section of law.

The basic concept is that there must be uniformity in any type of restriction on a constitutional right, it’s called the equal protections clause of the Constitution.

Anti-gun groups can call there is illegal efforts to conspire with local officials to pastor own gun laws whatever they want (today’s flavor is “lifesaving gun ordinances”) but the fact of the matter is until this law is either repealed or modified those actions are criminal in nature.

FOAC fights to defend preemption because we have seen what happens in other states where there is a patchwork quilt of laws and we feel it is critically important to maintain these protections.

HB 979 would reimburse anyone who legally challenges local gun ordinances (and is victorious in court) for their legal fees and expenses. It is a very simple concept and every local ordinance that has ever come before the courts has always been struck down except for a couple of poorly challenged legal efforts on ordinances regarding the mandatory reporting of lost or stolen firearms.

Please do everything you can to help us see this legislation moves through the Judiciary Committee in the house and to the floor for a full vote. You may be wondering if the outcome is a foregone conclusion because of the nature of Gov. Wolf to be in the back pocket of the anti-gun groups. The fact that a matter is, we need to put legislators on the record on this legislation and then if he does veto the bill, we need to push for veto override and that is something we will be doing should that happen.

For a number of reasons, veto overrides are often more difficult to obtain than the original votes suggest. Legislators may wish to go on record as voting for something, knowing the governor will veto it. Then they vote to uphold the veto.  There is also party loyalty involved. Many are unwilling to override a veto of a governor of their party.

It is still a good strategy to attempt a veto override of a governor of the opposite party. It shows the base you are serious; it shows principle on the part of the legislators.

2nd Amendment Wins of this past Week

“House and Senate Republicans passed resolutions against the teaching of critical race theory in Utah schools and supporting the idea of declaring the state a “Second Amendment Sanctuary.”

“State wildlife agencies are facing something many haven’t seen for years, even decades. A 64 percent increase, all due to more guns and ammunition being manufactured and the law-abiding citizens that purchase them. “

“Breitbart News published an exclusive article detailing Mike Bloomberg and his buddies working hand in hand with the Chinese Communist Government. It‘s no secret the Chinese government is not a fan of the 2nd Amendment.”

“With less than 24 hours left in the Missouri legislative session, Senate lawmakers gave final passage to a controversial bill that would nullify federal gun laws in the state.”

“A Donald Trump-supporting attorney announced he filed a trademark for Good Pillow before gun control activist David Hogg—and suggested it is “a good brand to put on pillows with a pro-gun civil rights message.”

“Under the law, CWP holders can openly carry a concealable weapon on them or in their motor vehicle unless there is signage explicitly stating otherwise.”

Today, I signed the Open Carry with Training Act into law! I will proudly support any legislation that protects or enhances a South Carolinian’s ability to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, and that’s exactly what this bill does.

Here’s what this means for you: pic.twitter.com/MjewBtrgB2

— Gov. Henry McMaster (@henrymcmaster) May 17, 2021

“In a unanimous decision, the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday refused to give police “an open-ended license” to enter homes and seize firearms without a warrant.”

Armed Washington State Man Shoots, Kills Attacker Targeting Neighbors:

“A Washington state man used his own gun to save his neighbors, by shooting and killing a man who police say was going on a violent rampage armed with a metal baton.”

These are just a few of the best wins of the week. Let’s put Pennsylvania in this column on Tuesday by ensuring the passage of HB 659 and HB 979 in the House Judiciary Committee!

National Reciprocity/Recognition Update

Pro-Gun US House Members, led by U.S. Rep. Richard Hudson (NC attempted) to advance H.R. 38, the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, despite active interference House Speaker Pelosi.

This past week, House Democrats on the Rules Committee rejected an amendment offered by Rep. Hudson to include H.R. 38 in a bill to boost security in our nation’s capital.

With America reopening from COVID-19, Rep. Hudson argued that law-abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves in Washington, D.C. and across the country. Following that, Hudson announced that H.R. 38 was included in the Republican Study Committee’s 2022 budget proposal, signaling that this legislation would be a top priority if control of the House changes hands again in next year’s election.

Interesting Videos: Are Biden’s Executive ‘Actions’ Legal?

Braden Langley, from the Langley Outdoors Academy has a YouTube channel and puts out some really great and regular content.  Langley’s videos are short, to the point, and my personal favorite, he cites all his sources.

On March 29, 2021, Langley put out a video: “Biden’s Gun Control Executive “Order” or “Actions”?… We may be getting played here…”

In it he goes into detail about the fancy wordplay that is going on concerning the executive measures that the Biden Administration may or may not take.  I’m just using the phrase executive measures to include the White House’s cache of executive actions versus executive orders.  Looking into what Langley explains, I wanted to follow up with some more supporting details, and found in an NPR article by Scott Neuman the following information:

A presidential executive order “is a directive issued to federal agencies, department heads, or other federal employees by the President of the United States under his statutory or constitutional powers,” according to Robert Longley, writing at usgovinfo.about.com. “In many ways, presidential executive orders are similar to written orders, or instructions issued by the president of a corporation to its department heads or directors.”

By contrast, a presidential executive action is kind of a catch-all term, writes NBC, which quoted an unnamed administration official in 2011 as saying: “It just means something the executive branch does. The use of any of a number of tools in the executive branch’s toolbox.”

Political writer Tom Murse says: “[Most] executive actions carry no legal weight. Those that do actually set policy can be invalidated by the courts or undone by legislation passed by Congress.”

Langley in his video cited: Executive action vs. executive order: What’s the difference? if you want to follow up with his research.

Shooting Sports in the News: Shooting is for ALL Ages and Lifestyles

Italy’s Giovanni Pellielo is an ordained bishop and one of the most decorated competitors in the history of his sport. This summer, he is hoping to return to the Games at age 51.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/sports/olympics/tokyo-olympics-shooting-johnny-pellielo.html

Overall Status of 2nd Amendment Legislation Filed to Date in PA and the US:

2021-2022 Session PA State Bills (updated)

  • Pro-Gun Bills: 19
  • Anti-Gun Bills: 51
  • Unrated (Watching): 7
  • Legislative (gun related) Memos: 116

2021-2022 Session Federal Bills (updated)

  • Pro-Gun Bills: 34
  • Anti-Gun Bills: 60
  • Unrated (Watching): 34

NEVER Forget: the story of Samuel Whittemore who at the age of 80, in 1775, picked up every one of his weapons and confronted 1400 British redcoats: https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/this-80-year-old-minuteman-took-on-a-column-of-british-troops-by-himself

The patriot shot down three Redcoats with his firearms at point blank range, but not having time to reload he drew his sword and started slashing at the oncoming bayonets instead. One soldier shot Whittemore in the face, finally bringing the old man down... and yet he still tried to get back up.

So, the next time someone complains to you about not having the wherewithal to get involved mention old Sam who not only survived being bayoneted and shot in the head but lived for another 18 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Whittemore

1st Point to Ponder: Gun control groups are spending not just big, but “HUGE.”

Open Secrets’ Krystal Hur reported, “Spending on gun control lobbying surged about 21 percent from January through March, compared with the same period in 2020, to $630,000. Everytown for Gun Safety, a nonprofit largely funded and co-launched by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, topped the list of industry lobbyist spenders for the 10th year in a row with $380,000. Gun control group Giffords came in second with $150,000.”

That’s on top of the nearly $25 million Open Secrets reported gun control groups spent to get their favorite politicians elected in 2020. Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety topped that list with $17 million.

2nd Point to Ponder: On May 7thATF published a proposed rule on its website.

The rule has not yet been published in the federal register, but likely will be on Monday, May 10th. That publication will trigger a 90-day comment period where gun owners and members of the firearm industry will be provided with an opportunity to provide input on the proposed rule.

The proposed rule, entitled Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of firearms, proposes new definitions for the terms “firearm frame or receiver,” “frame or receiver,” “firearm,” “gunsmith,” “complete weapon,” “complete muffler or silencer device,” “privately made firearm,” and “readily.” In addition to these changes, ATF is seeking to create an entirely new process for licensed firearm dealers to apply serial numbers to unserialized firearms that come into their possession and to require the indefinite storage of firearm records by licensees.

Anti-Gunners on Guns: Is it possible they’re waking up?

[T]he evidence on the effects of universal background checks and assault weapons bans is pretty weak. Several studies in recent years have found that universal background checks, at least on their own, don’t seem to have a big effect on gun deaths. Similarly, the research on assault weapons bans, including the national ban that Biden helped pass in 1994, found they have little effect on gun violence, largely because the vast majority of such violence is committed with handguns. …

One way to explain these findings is that the reach of universal background checks and assault weapons bans is too small. The US already has background checks for most legal gun purchases, and all universal background checks would do is cover the minority of gun purchases not detected in the existing system. An assault weapons ban would cover a minority of guns used in crimes and would probably have loopholes that miss segments of that minority.

— German Lopez in The case for requiring gun licenses

CPRC Update from Dr. John Lott:

We have new research. Our research director, Professor Carl Moody, looks at how recent research ignoring the vast differences in right-to-carry laws has biased those studies toward not finding a benefit from right-to-carry laws. Gun control advocates will use these studies in the upcoming Supreme Court on New York's concealed handgun law, and our work allows us to explain why these studies are flawed.

I have completed new work on photo voter ID regulations. Did you know that all but one country in Europe requires government-issued photo voter IDs to vote? And the one country that doesn't mandate photo IDs for the entire country will soon be doing so to be like all the other European countries? This research shows that these countries adopted these rules because they had seen vote fraud.

Finally, while the news media and entertainment television shows want you to believe that white supremacists are behind most mass public shootings, we have also new research showing that white supremacists make up a small percent of these attacks.

I did television and radio interviews on Biden's false claims about guns and the push for Constitutional Carry.

Entertainment television shows have gone into overdrive, pushing lies about guns. CBS's Blue Bloods has criminals buying machine guns at gun shows and trafficking them to New York City. One of the characters on the show announces that she knows that these guns came from gun shows because she ran their serial numbers through BATF's tracing site. Of course, while the show wants to demonize gun shows, the only way that information would be in the BATF's data is if the guns went through background checks at the gun shows. CBS's FBI Most Wanted and NBC's Chicago PD show that when people use guns defensively, the people using them end up getting fatally shot. ABC's The Rookie continues its streak of criminals using machine guns in three of four recent episodes. Unfortunately, there are so many extreme examples of bias over the last couple of weeks that it will take some time to go through them all.

There are also some noteworthy defensive gun uses. An abortion protestor with a concealed handgun permit aided a woman being shot at while going into an abortion clinic. In another case, a concealed handgun permit holder protected a Jewish family who anti-semites were attacking.

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Firearms Training Guidance: The Right Tool For the Job

Part 5 in a multiple part series on the Safe and Proper use of your defensive tool

By Klint Macro

The cornerstone of all firearms training, no matter the context is safety. All Americans who exercise their 2A Rights must also exercise them responsibly; this requires an understanding of safe gun handling, responsible storage, but begins with choosing the right tool for the job.

No firefighter would run into a working fire with a mask that “kinda fits” them or one that works “most of the time”. However, many family first responders carry defensive tools that don’t fit them or are terribly complicated. Sometime that complicatedness may even make their gun choice “less safe”. After all we carry our firearms so that we can defend ourselves from a potential attack and keep our loved ones safe. It is a piece of safety equipment. If it is overly complicated or unreliable then it may make us less safe.

Let’s begin by addressing “fit”. The gun must fit and have the ability to point naturally. When we drive the gun to full extension it should point where we are looking. We should strive to run the gun using the least amount of time, effort, and energy, and with the least amount of visual stimulus possible. We cover this in great detail in the USCCA Defensive Shooting Fundamentals Classes.

To determine if a gun fits your hand, grip the gun properly with the strong hand high on the back strap, your trigger finger off the trigger and above the trigger area and your middle and subsequent fingers wrapped around the grip tight against the bottom of the trigger guard. The strong hand thumb knuckle should be on the support side of the gun. Factors that could affect this is gun thickness, double stacked versus single stacked, and of course your hand size. If the thumb is not on the support side of the gun then it will likely point somewhere other than where you are looking when you drive it to full extension. This is a set up for a potential failure in the context of a defensive encounter.

Next, consider grip angle. If the grip angle is such that when you drive the gun to full extension the muzzle points slightly high or slightly low, then that gun is not likely to point well for you. If you would like more info on this, check out this article I wrote on Personal Defense Network.

Some guns have interchangeable back straps or panels that might fix this issue. If you have to rely on visual stimulus to see the gun tipped high or low, then cognitively decide to correct the guns alignment, you are setting yourself up for a potential fail. So why not pick a gun that not only fits, but one that also points well.

Another factor to consider is the efficiency of operation and the ability to operate the gun using the least amount of time, effort and energy. Many gun designs are EXTREMELY complicated. Having to manipulate levers, buttons, and switches to operate a gun can lead to missteps. If grip and control of the gun is compromised to operate the gun, or if the gun doesn’t fire when you want it to, or if you don’t use the gun as designed because it is inconvenient, then you are making the use of that gun less safe.

As you look at the evolution of firearm design going back to single action semi-autos on up to modern striker fired semi-autos, some safety features are very necessary but may make one design less efficient than others.

Running a Single Action only 1911 “cocked” but not “locked” is grossly irresponsible because of its very light and short trigger press. It takes MANY MANY reps to consistently get the safety off when you need it. A defensive firearm that doesn’t go “bang” when you need it, is not a great choice for life saving safety equipment. Would you want to have an AED that only turns on “most of the time”? Can you train to get that manual thumb safety off when you need it?… hell yes, humans are amazing animals, however it will require a commitment of lots and lots of practice.

Double Action/Single Action (DA/SA) semi-autos often lack manually operated thumb safeties but when the gun is initially loaded the hammer is cocked mechanically by the slide setting the gun into “single action” mode which, like with the 1911, typically means a very light short trigger press. This would be a grossly irresponsible way to carry the gun. So to remedy this issue, most DA/SA semi-autos have a “decocking” lever which safely drops the hammer, setting it up for double action mode. The initial double action trigger press, out of the holster, is heavier and longer, and then all subsequent shots, being in single action mode, makes for an inconsistent trigger press. Most folks who use DA/SA’s will report “shanking” the first shot, and some might even report firing a second time, maybe with out intending to, because of the drastic difference of pressure required to make the gun go bang from shot one to shot two. Can you train to run this gun well… hell yes, humans are amazing animals, however it will require a commitment of lots and lots of practice.

What about double action revolvers? A DA/SA or double action only (DAO) revolver may be a viable option for somebody, however, a DA/SA revolver must be carried and run in double action mode for the same reasons as the DA/SA semi-auto. The “safety” of the revolver is the long heavy trigger press. Carrying it in single action mode, with the hammer cocked, is grossly irresponsible. Relying on your ability to cock the hammer before you need to defend yourself from a violent attacker in close proximity is unrealistic. The consistency of the heavy DA trigger press is a positive, however, I have worked with many folks who lacked the hand and finger strength to press the heavy DA trigger. Because of the heavy trigger, many folks have an extremely difficult time shooting the gun with any level of precision. This combined with limited capacity, shorter sight radius, and the fact that majority of defensive revolvers are gripped almost entirely with the strong hand with the support hand gripping the strong hand, not the gun, typically requires more muscle and brain power to control deviation and mitigate recoil. Can you train to run this gun well… hell yes, humans are amazing animals, however it will require a commitment of lots and lots of practice.

The modern striker fired semi auto that lacks a manually operated thumb safety is the most efficient design available to us in the 21st century. Many folks take issue with my next statement, but it is my belief that if Col. Cooper were alive today, he’d be carrying a modern striker fired semi-auto without a thumb safety, probably in 9mm. It is easy for me to say this because we really don’t know, however, much like the AR15 rifle platform, the polymer framed striker fired semi-auto pistol has, over decades, proven to be extremely reliable, it has a consistent trigger press one shot to the next, and as many lack an external thumb safety, they are much less complicated and easier to master in less time. Another added benefit is that because of the design of a striker fired pistol, using a striker (think of a plunger on a pinball machine) rather than a hammer hitting a firing pin, the slide is typically not as high, it is lighter, has less mass than a hammer gun, and is generally easier to mitigate recoil, settle the gun, and race to that “last shot” that ends the attack. Can you train to run this gun well… hell yes, humans are amazing animals, and if you commitment to lots and lots of practice you can run it even better!

I, and my colleagues, that see hundreds and maybe thousands of guns on the range each year will attest that some designs and models run virtually flawlessly and others not so much. With this said, my general recommendation for a defensive pistol is a modern striker fired semi-automatic without a thumb safety in 9mm. They are the most efficient design available, requiring the least amount of resources to run, and they are much more consistently reliable. We will talk about validating your defensive system (gun and ammo) and choosing your defensive ammo in my next article. We also cover these topics in great depth in the I.C.E. Fundamentals of Home Defense and USCCA Certified Concealed Carry Courses that I teach.

Choose a gun that is reliable, fits you well, and is easier to run. This will help you to maximize your training resources and you might just become “better well regulated” with your particular tool of self-defense making you a more efficient family first responder.

Lastly, as I wrap up this installment, I remind you of “The Big Picture Rule”. Every time you take a gun from or put it back into a holster consider this:

Recognize that YOU are in control of a firearm, if YOU use this firearm carelessly, ignorantly, or with malice, YOU have the potential to harm or kill yourself or someone else.

Act accordingly. Don’t just be an armed American, be a responsibly armed American!

Stay armed, alert, safe, and be well regulated!

If you would like more of Klint’s Firearm Training Tips: Click Here!

Upcoming Events: The event situation continues to be fluid. Please check the FOAC website for updates https://foac-pac.org/Events 

  • Washington County Gun Shows –June 19-20, September 25-26. 9am to 4pm. Washington County Fairgrounds 2151 North Main Street Washington Pa 15301. FOAC needs volunteers to work our table. Kevin Jackson has been coordinating the FOAC gun show tables. Should you want to lend Kevin a hand send Kevin an email rubyred933@hotmail.com or call him: 412-302-3544.
  • Harrisburg Rally (June 7) – Stop the Steal of Your God-Given Rights and Liberties – To Protect Your RKBA – State Capitol Steps, Monday, June 7th 2021, 10am. http://www.repmetcalfe.com/UniteAgainstTyranny

       Concealed Carry Seminars – Kim/FOAC will be conducting the following LTCF seminars:

  • May 27th – Rep. Dowling – Addison VFD, Rt. 40 7214 National Pike, Addison, PA 15411
  • June 3rd – Rep. Warner – Connellsville Township Firehall, 905 Fireman Lane, Connellsville, PA
  • July 7th – Rep. Davanzo – Herminie Gun Club – Address TBD

Founding Father’s Statement on Freedom:

"Our legislators are not sufficiently apprized of the rightful limits of their power; that their true office is to declare and enforce only our natural rights and duties, and to take none of them from us."

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Francis W. Gilmer, 1816

Closing Thoughts:

The Second Amendment recognizes a natural right that already exists. It grants no rights. The Bill of Rights was designed to protect Americans’ rights from infringement by the new and powerful central government under the Constitution. People misconstrue the nature of the Second Amendment. If the Second Amendment didn’t exist, Americans would still have the natural and moral right to keep and bear arms for any purpose. Even if the Second Amendment only applied to the states’ ability to maintain a militia, like many liberals say, this would still not affect Americans’ right to keep and bear arms. In Article I, section 8, of the Constitution, no grant of power is given to the federal government to make any gun-control laws.

The Second Amendment doesn’t read: The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed except: when it comes to dangerous or unusual weapons, automatic weapons, weapons not envisioned at the time the Second Amendment was written, national security, emergencies, reasonable regulations, or extenuating circumstances.

On June 7th, let’s remind Harrisburg that they swore an Oath to the above when taking office. It is non-negotiable.

NO MORE GUN LAWS!

Stay Free!

Kim Stolfer, President

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